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Cad Edition Manager Microstation Update V8 Fusion

Mgt may want to create a 'seamless' system where a drawing could be changed/modified using Microstation V8 or AutoCAD. I know ACAD pops up a menu stating that the drawing is not a TrueDWG, and possible errors.etc.

I have come across a attribute problem - ACAD goes to MS fine, MS back to ACAD erases block attributes. MS guys in IT are claiming Bentleys stance that MS is compatiable with ACAD - though ACAD won't necessarily make that claim. Besides the competition factor behind these claims, what are the risk of such a system? I am trying to eliminate a catastrophe.and the the possible loss of my beloved AutoCAD:) - Sorry so long - TIA. Jemery0630 said the following on 9/7/2007 9:15 AM: Mgt may want to create a 'seamless' system where a drawing could be changed/modified using Microstation V8 or AutoCAD. As long as DWG contains objects and properties that DGN does not, and vice-versa, there will be translation problems.

Do the work in the software native to the required file format deliverable. When we do work for the state DOT, we do it in Microstation/GeoPak - not because that's what we excel at or because the labor is cheaper - but because that is what the client requires. McSwain http://rkmcswain.blogspot.com. Oh boy - you are in for some fun!

Just do some searching on the forums regarding this topic and you will find plenty of issues to look for. I just spent about four years with a company (MicroStation based) who is absolutely positive that they are completely compatible. (I just left in July.) Rest assured that this is a VERY large international engineering company that has been using MicroStation since the beginning. After a few decades, and many thousands of man hours, and who knows how many dollars spent trying to solve this concept at that company, they still can not figure out how to get this to really work well, and are still working at it. Let me say up front that I honestly do not dislike MicroStation. I have used it quite extensively with success.

It is a fine CAD program, and it has its place in the CAD market, though my personal preference is AutoCAD and AutoCAD based products. A lot of that is the way I prefer to 'do CAD,' but it is strictly personal.

That being said, in my honest opinion, the bottom line is that they are compatible, but ONLY if you do not care what the quality of the file is in the end. If you have ANY halfway in-depth standards you need to follow, then they are, in fact, not that compatible.

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If it is just very simple standards such as layer names, then maybe. (Maybe.) Lately, Bentley is really pushing this concept that they are compatible, but it is a very qualitative statement. The fact that they can open a native dwg file does not make for true compatibility, though I will admit that it has gotten better in recent years.

If you are really want to try to understand some of the issues you will be dealing with, I would suggest you look into fairly basic things such as: 1) Paper Space/Layouts in AutoCAD vs various methodologies in MicroStation (including self-referencing to emulate Paper Space, which was what my old company tried to do. I would not recommend this, but it seems to be a pretty commonly used method.) 2) Linetypes; including the usage of LTScale and PSLTscale, (and MSLTScale if using 2008), and any custom linetypes. 3) Blocks vs Cell Libraries, especially blocks with attributes. As well as dynamic blocks, multi-view blocks (and annotative scaling blocks in 2008) 4) Text Styles in general, as well as font - TTF/shx/big fonts/custom fonts (if any), and annotative text styles in 2008.

5) References; Overlay and Attachment, and self-referencing and circular references 6) Dimstyles (and annotative in 2008) 7) Leaders/QLeaders/Annotation 8) Annotative scaling (if using AutoCAD 2008) 9) Tables 10) Layers; including VP specific options in AutoCAD, (especially the new ones in 2008), and understanding the differences in Level Manager and Level Display in MicroStation 11) Sheet Set Manager (or Vault or any other document management system). 12) Fields in any capacity in AutoCAD 13) Any sort of customization (lsp, vba, etc) 14) Standards (using dws files) 15) Printing; pen tables (if you use stbs, watch out) vs Set files/Plot files in MicroStation (not the same thing as plot files in AutoCAD) 16) Publishing/Batch plotting 16) Templates (dwt) vs Seed files 17) Units - defining them & understanding the differences in how each program deals with them, especially if you do any civil or survey work 18) Coordinate systems (& in conjunction with Units) 19) General pathing of reference files/images, etc. I could go on for hours. I am not saying that these are all incompatible, but they are issues that you will HAVE to understand and address, as well as retrain any staff on the new way to do everything to ensure any back and forth compatibility. Neither type of CAD user will appreciate the compromise either way. In the end, yes, you can make files that print out to look very similar in both programs, and yes, they are both, at some level, similar because they are both CAD programs, but the fact is, they use very different approaches to how most people use them, and those methods and approaches are not necessarily compatible.

Ametek pvhcl s1 manual transmission. If you start a dwg in AutoCAD, then open it in MicroStation, you would have to change many things to make them true native MicroStation object types, with the functionality and flexibility of that object type. And vice versa. If you really want true and easy compatibility, you should basically use AutoCAD circa R14 or so, and even then, stick to only basic entity types. And basically do CAD as if you were just drafting on paper.

Nothing automated. My opinion echoes the others who have posted - use the platform that matches the required deliverable. That's my 3 cents. Take it for what you want. We run both programs, if you do have to use a dwg in microstation, do not convert back and forth between dwg and dgn, keep the drawing in dwg and work in compatability mode, In my experience you can get away with changeing a drawing maybe once or twice if you are very lucky, if you keep switching from dwg to dgn and back, errors will certainly occur.

I would certainly push to keep 1 seat of autocad- just for checking that any specific drawing transfer has worked correctly. To summarise it works, but its not a process to subject files to on a repeated basis, open it as a dwg in microstation and then save at the end, it can be done, but by gum dont expect it to be easy or seamless every time. We have network licences for both programs which allows us to share fewer licences as nobody is using both at one and the same time. There is the option to work in dwg mode, that works well once you have all your dimstyle set to go back and forth, if you want to go from dgn to dwg, that takes some work you need to set up traslation file csv files, they work awsome and will convert anything you want, wrote in message news:5713691@discussion.autodesk.com. Mgt may want to create a 'seamless' system where a drawing could be changed/modified using Microstation V8 or AutoCAD.

I know ACAD pops up a menu stating that the drawing is not a TrueDWG, and possible errors.etc. I have come across a attribute problem - ACAD goes to MS fine, MS back to ACAD erases block attributes. MS guys in IT are claiming Bentleys stance that MS is compatiable with ACAD - though ACAD won't necessarily make that claim.

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Besides the competition factor behind these claims, what are the risk of such a system? I am trying to eliminate a catastrophe.and the the possible loss of my beloved AutoCAD:) - Sorry so long - TIA. It can be done and we are doing it, v8 can work in dwg mode, there are a few linestyle problems plotting can be made seamless with some work. I don't set up dwg files in AutoCAD but do have users that edit in MS, with out trouble, you can plot dwg's in MS once you translate the ctb however we still prefer to plot using native software, We use what ever software our clients require, but do enjoy the ability to reference in AutoCAD files into our dgn designs do it all the time, I recomend you check out the bentley group for DWG, many posts of problems and solutions, post the same question there you will get some great input good luck wrote in message news:5713691@discussion.autodesk.com.

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Mgt may want to create a 'seamless' system where a drawing could be changed/modified using Microstation V8 or AutoCAD. I know ACAD pops up a menu stating that the drawing is not a TrueDWG, and possible errors.etc. I have come across a attribute problem - ACAD goes to MS fine, MS back to ACAD erases block attributes. MS guys in IT are claiming Bentleys stance that MS is compatiable with ACAD - though ACAD won't necessarily make that claim. Besides the competition factor behind these claims, what are the risk of such a system? I am trying to eliminate a catastrophe.and the the possible loss of my beloved AutoCAD:) - Sorry so long - TIA.